Apple applies for Patent to Remotely Disable Jailbroken Iphone
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Apple Inc. has applied for a patent that will empower it to disable or deactivate features of iDevices (iphone , ipod , ipad) running on iOS firmware remotely , without the permission of its user. After iOS 4.0.1 was jailbroken early this month , Apple has been trying hard to keep its users from making unauthorized changes to its devices by released iOS 4.0.2 firmware which completely patches the “PDF Exploit” , used by the Iphone Dev team in order to jailbreak iphone 4.
Since Jailbreak was made legal in US , it has become increasingly tough for Apple to keep up with hackers , and the latest move is an attempt to fight against jailbreaking and other forms of unauthorized changes to their devices.
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Source : Ars Technica
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What the heck…!!!
And let me guess, once they “deactivate” it or “disable” it, we will need to pay them to get the device re-activated again, correct? Probably this is how they will take revenge on the “jailbroken” device owners…???
What’s wrong with Apple…???
How much more money do they want from us???
This is exactly what Arstechnica said :
Though it doesnt mention Jailbreak , since jailbreak was made legal sometime back , but it may have the jailbreaking attempt as hacking ,as mentioned in the clause
Why can’t apple just enabled the same benefits that a jail broken iphone allows. I’m sure people would pay for advance feature (if not too ridiculously price.) All we want as customers is customisability to make the iphone more personal by having decorated icons, enhancing the look and choosing more than 5 flaming messages tones. Come on Apple stop dictating to us what you want to give us and start listening to what YOUR customers want!
apple thinks they can choose what you can and cant put on your idevice. if they disable it, you’re screwed
If you purchased your iphone without a carrier contract, the law says the phone is yours to jailbreak. If Apple would do this thing to unjailbreak your own personal phone you should be able to sue them. I think they would soon seen the largest class action lawsuit in history.
You are not renting the phone, you purchased it. If this was true then any manufacturer would be allowed to modify your appliances, furniture etc. without your permission.
DON’T THINK SO !
And……only in the U.S. why ????????????
If they ever do take this actin, my iphone is worthless to me. I realy would prefer going to other competitives to get whatever I want from my phone without the headache from Apple.
I see that Apple will be dead if this ever happens. The coolest thing about iphone or ipad is that we can have the programs we want on it.
If apple does , we will be heart broken
, if not jailbroken
they cant really block jailbreak.. hackers always finds a way
Android is doing quite good they say , and AMOLED display is like Retina , but with Vibrant colours …
after iphone , next its android for me , and google is not like apple , they allow opensource programs to run , and quality apps to
I really like my iPhone 4. I am even willing to deal with the reception issue. But the jailbreak issue is one that I won’t budge on now that it is considered legal. I think that it is not too much to ask of Apple to either use my device the way I want and if a update happens to not work with my jailbreak then thats fine. But Apple purposely shutting down devices that are jailbroken should not be legal. I purchased the phone from Apple. I own it. It is mine. If I want to void warranty or phone support that is fine I just want to use it the way I want. I don’t think Apple should push away users that apparently want to use a advanced configuration of the phone. While not supported through Apple to jailbreak the device I still believe it should be tolerated as fair usage even though technical issues should be something that Apple should NOT have to support after the device has been jailbroken.
I really like Apple as a company, but if they push hard for this and it actually passes I will lose so much respect for them. Once you buy a device (of any kind) it is yours. You should be able to do anything you want to it. If it voids the warranty then that is on the modifiers shoulders. That would be like buying a new car and doing engine mods to it and then the car manufacturer killing your car remotely…WTF!!!???? I just don’t see how this could pass…we aren’t renting or leasing these devices from them….THEY ARE OURS!!!! Well Maybe they will wake up and stop being asses over the jailbreaking community…probably not goi g to happen but nothing wrong with wishful thinking.
I hear you budy, I hope Apple will get sue if they do that.
if apple did that, my next phone is from Google.
Waiting for Nokia to comeup with some Android phone … where is Dell
… delaying so mcuh with their Dell Streak model
so is mine. i will get rid of my i4, my ipod and both of my macbooks. this would be the last straw. i fell in love with apple products since jailbreaking was invented because my iphone 3g, that i just replaced with i4, was my first apple device. but if this is true, and i surely hope it isnt, apple will become a swear word in my house.
Yea my wife just got a Galaxy S phone with Andriod 2.1 and man that thing is sooooooo much better than OS (non jailbroked) im like wow a phone can do that. just to mock me she dled an “iphone layout” that looks better on her phone. /sigh apple
i have heard some good reviews about samsung galaxy s , the youtube video was just awesome …:P love that AMOLED display
I am not sure how Apple will be able to deactivate something that WE own. I have purchased this product from them. Why should they even think they should be able to deactivate OUR products. I think this is a bunch of hogwash.
well cant be a rumor , CNET published the same thing last day ….
Apple is Up for something big after the jailbreak legalization …
what i dont understand is why we write about it WHY NO WRITE TO APPLE!!
why not write to apple!
i wonder if we could sued them for doing that?
Should I un-jailbreak cause I don’t want to get bricked by apple because of that new patent that kills jailbroken iPhones
Simple math Apple…number of iPhones disabled = number of long term customers lost ;o))
Dare to be morons!!!
Haha , well said …
In reading that excerpt from the patent application above, it smacks of PRIVACY INFRINGEMENT BIG TIME. Picture, heartbeat analysis, voice print analysis. All this for doing something that is now legal. It’ll never hold up in court. It’ll bring Apple’s bank accounts down into negative territory due to class action suits payouts. And do you really think the Dev-Team won’t find a way around it?! No hardware/software can’t be hacked. Look at VideoCypher, NSS, etc. DC2 is coming, I’m sure!
Thanks for your views Law Girl , im sure the patent will not pass or will be limited by rules set by the patent authority
I don’t think it’s Apple. I think the unfriendly user policy is in the contract between Apple and AT&T. When my contract ends I will be looking for a new phone. Not because of Apple but because of AT&T.
My forst phone was iPhone 2G
My second Phone was iPhone 3G
My tirth phone was iPhone 3GS
Then bought an iPad.
My current Phone is iPhone 4….
Ooooh men, am I looking forward to my next phone: Most probably Samsung, but no Apple again!!!!
From love to hate: I hate Apple, I hate Apple, I hate Apple!
Stop ripping of your customers and leave us alone. NEVER Apple again and nice to see I am not alone.
Will Apple allow us to take outdoor pictures using the Iphone or maybe we are only limited to the indoors only? What’s next? Get zapped via Iphone? IZap preinstalled!! Or maybe,they can spy on us using FaceTime? Apple should move to Russa. “AppleOv”
Isn’t Steve Job’s brother Kim Jon il, of North Korea?
There’s no real reason to worry about this.
This is Apple vs Hackers who always wins? I’m sure there will be a patch or a disabler for this soon as they put this in play.
idc if the hackers find a way arround this shouldnt be legal now after jailbreak was allowed!! O.O! its like its not our phone after we bought it WTF apple really, if they do im gonna stop buying apple…
I find it interesting that Steve Jobs won’t allow flash to ever be run on his stuff bc it is not open source… and now this… Hmmmm what a hypocrite!
Side note, how does my $600 iPhone that I pay for belong to Apple anymore? I don’t get that? It is mine. That is like me buying a Ford Pickup and want to customize it, then Ford has someone come put 4 tire locks on it until I pay their fine and change it back. Unbelievable!!! It is my stinking phone and property to do what I want. This is AMUUURICAAAA dang it!
Dear friend,
It is now proven that silly Apple is spying on everyone using IPhone. Don’t you think it is the time now for the free developers to do something about it ? maybe by developing a software that closes all spying ports.
This is it for Apple—>(Apple, your decision will come back to bite you!)
You are all right, it’s the primary reason we loved the iPhone in the first place, the apps and the hobby of hacking. I understand if the carrier wants to charge for tethering, ATT you would benefit by making that cheaper.
We really don’t own the iPhone, we lease it from Apple. So, your phone is really not yours to keep, let’s return them…Android is the new supper power! iPhones are for girls that drive VW Beatles. I only have one because my company provides it.
I was also thinking about another reason for this, if you hack the iPhone, how do companies that want their exchange email secure deal with security if the phone is hacked? How do they know that the pass-code was not disabled on a hacked phone? Maybe this prevents the Apple iPhone from becoming a business trusted phone like the BB with Enterprise Server.
Not to worry about company secure email. Everyone using any carrier that’s getting their company email to their phone has to purchase an enterprise package. The corporations pay the providers to supply a package that will handle their secure email, chat, IM whether it be push or manual log in every time. This whole thing with being able to disable the phones is a sheer control issue with Apple and the Iphone. If they really wanted to keep the Iphone unhackable, they would stop having it assembled in China, where by the way, they are selling them cheaper and under a different name. All the same parts, all the same features, different name. Just goes to show how money hungry these companies are. Create a great product, charge us out the a$$ for it and then limit what we’re “allowed” to do. Meanwhile, they’re paying pennies because they’re outsourcing American jobs to other countries! Way to go.
I paid for it, It’s mine Kiss my a$$!
The only reason the IPhone is so big, is because users like us made it big. Let Apple make the change it’s OK because we too will make a change. And when we do there will be a company waiting to give us what we want and move into the #1 spot.
Reading the comments here makes me wonder. Have you people even spend one minute to think about the subject?
It is not Apple that shuts down your phone, it got nothing to do with a jailbreak, it is YOU that initiates the whole thing. Already Apple gives every one the possibility to remote wipe and to message the phone IF UNAUTHORIZED USE IS DETECTED! That is the key here. The patent is for authorization, like a password. So if your heartbeat (far fetched) is not yours, eg somebody stole your gadget,YOU (not Apple) can disable it.
Did anybody bother reading the application?
And for those of you longing for a Google phone, do not forget, Google actually DID remote erase installed apps from private phones (as Amazon did with kindle books)
NOBODY EVER did anything like that at Apple.
The 4.01 to 4.02 update did disable “jailbreak me”, but that was hardly the reason for the update. It was a massive security hole and I would not have liked to have seen the people if through this hole somebody’s phone had gotten taken over or damaged. Then everyone cries and shout “why did Apple not do anything about it”
how much more money does apple want? they have sold enough iphone 4s… i m sure the dev team will find a way to slap apple.
What would one expect, though I am a fan of Apple they still sicken me to my very core. To thing that they use slave labor to assemble all there electronics. Just think the i Phone you hold in your hand might just be built by a person who committed suicide.
and, sorry to be harsh, the others company, what they do? all the same, when $$$ is the key to success….
well, I own, I think an Iphone 4, I did some jailbreak, for example, we really need to jailbreak to be able to save news Contacts to Sim card…This is…ridiculous…..
Jailbreak comunity is, who truly knows? who truly knows who is behind it? Apple? someone else…anyway for me, I truly like the Iphone, but, not to the point to enter in a religious state for Mr.Apple…
What I really do not like, is always need Itunes to either install, backup, restore, not even, be able to do partial backup, partial restore..Since I have an I phone, I have the strange feeling not to be myself…Perhaps all the internet stuffs is a lots of spying on what we do, what we bought, who we meet, what we listen to, and so on..That it is like no more privacy, either with Apple or all the others company…
For example, when I hear from the Apple store, to be able to upload or download, or transfert stuffs, beetwen Iphone and Ipad, we still need a third computer…This si way too much…
Me 2 feeling the same as you!!! let do something!!! I want it to be my own!!! no one spy on me!!!
my dear dear Aladin…
are you a dreamer? an utopist…? no one, now, would be could be stop the giants company to spy on their customers…Why, very simple….
let say, you have a company who is producing say some vrey specifics hardwares, even softwares….It would be very nice to understand, what customers would truly buy, on their next move, and, if I would produce that hardware or softwares, I would be also nice to see, almost how many I could sell, without loosing my time, my employee time, because, money is money. so simple…
Also, Nasdag and else, what do you think, they try to predict and how??? just think a little…That goes, from a tiny company tho the largest and bigger ones…
and, if you do not like to be spyed, just do not own, either Credits cards, or mobiles phone, or internet connections….but, if you have nothing to hide, then…….just enjoy news toys
can this be mobile me?
Oli, you speak the language of ## and ## . Desist. This is not a thing to accept. They will ## out your data, and with location data they can predict your future moves easily. Given that you are turned from a human to a train, a thing along a track. Even your d@mn dog can run away.
well chiggsy….
at least when my 2 dogs run and free, they can always run away, at least, they think so….
Also, when I was a very young chick, I was a real dreamer, I am still a dreamer, but, what I do see or listen too, had somoehow bent my head…..d@mm, d@mm right..
Have a wonderfull day, all of youand a Happy Eastern, at least for the eggs and the chocolate…
Off topic……
One of my dog, a female fox terrier 3 years, she is named Snoopy, and the other one, a mix Labrador 1 year, she is named Chocolate…They both came from the shelter…..
What the *uck? Man, if apple does that, i will sell my iphone and ipod, and burn my old ipod touch that i dont use anymore, and i will buy a f*cking samsung galaxy s2. Yeah god d@mn it. It is my iphone! You can not do anything to it, cuz i paid u the money. *uck you if u do that. I love apple, bit if u did that i would hate you, and i wouldnt have a reason to have an iphone or an ipod. Ios needs cydia like we need air.. End of the story.
Does anyone know if apples patent actually went through? Because I was going to jailbreak my iphone, but i saw this post and decided to wait untill i heard that apple was/was not going to put that horrible patent into action.
Is it just me, or does it seem hypocritical and crassly self-benefitting and obvious that Apple will not disable or provide any recovery assistance for stolen iphones, but are trying to implement a patent to disable jailbroken phones? If stolen iphones could be disabled, they would be rendered useless, therefore deterring future thefts, which would be hugely detrimental to Apple’s bottomline, so they turn a blind eye. (Yes….I’m on my 3rd Iphone because of thefts and I’m sure I’m not one of few). But jailbroken phones are their number 1 priority? Preposterous!!
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The best thing that Apple could do with this jailbreak situation is to rethink their stand on stopping customers from changing their devices. This is a chance for Apple to gain an even larger hold on the cell phone market by not only allowing their current iphone 4 customers to jail breaak, but also provide a data pilot kit for a modest price that would be a one time fee that would allow all iphones to be tethered leagally. Nevertheless, if the efforts to block jailbreaking is continued the Apple competitors would immediately gain a large increase in their customer base. Needless to say these new customers would be Apple’s EX-CUSTOMER.